Welcome to Diane… #24

SHE’S BACK! This week Rosie, Adam and Bob struggle to the end of the series’ rough patch, discussing the twenty-second episode of David Lynch and Mark Frost’s Twin Peaks, sometimes called ‘Masters and Slaves’. The show we all love is here somewhere but it’s like a black film has grown over it.

This week on Diane then, we talk veils.

Windham Earle employs a surrogate, the mists at the Great Northern finally clear, and Evelyn mourns the passing of the wild ride. Work slowly and with care. Everything must be written in a steady, uncompromising hand.


In the Heaven World, we look at Reality minus two veils. If I have in my Heaven World a friend whom I love, I see him minus two veils, As I know my friend here below, he and I are both veiled. I loved him when on earth; but when later after death I enter the Heaven World, then I shall see him minus two veils, and he will reveal to me certain attributes of himself.

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4 Responses to “Diane… #24: Twin Peaks Episode 22 – Masters and Slaves”

  1. John Says:

    Glad to have you back Rosie J
    Team Diane made it through the Wild Ride and I appreciate how you discussed it at the end. You’re all troopers and I appreciate your senses of humor and duty.
    Also loved the South Africa educational aside. Team Diane always keep it worldly and we’re all the better for it.

    Keaton’s divergent style choices (giant chess pieces, veils everywhere, overlays, out-of-continuity storytelling, etc) don’t bug me so much. Keaton’s a bit insecure but overall doesn’t do anything detrimental but mask the weak stories she was saddled with portraying.

    The blue uniformed guys you were wondering about are bus drivers, a la Ralph Cramden / Jackie Gleason, and Gleason’s the opera lover so I think that’s why they’re listening to that. The string of cops have to be referencing old Hollywood as well but I can’t quite place it, and obviously Wizard of Oz is referenced later when Ben returns from the delusion. Keaton picked up on all the old Hollywood references in previous episodes and decidedly wanted to go whole hog including her own.

    There are only two issues that make Keaton’s episode dead to me:
    1- Daniel Smith (during his Sparkwood & 21 Feedback) RAILED on the choice to use BOB Yell effects on Malcolm’s death scene. Never used to set me off but now it does…this does not need to reference Maddy’s death because apples to apples this is not.
    2- Windom Earle is now a prancer. He was a rumpled suit-wearing recluse at the end of last episode. This week he has the pajamas and the prancing and the mad laughter. Can you imagine if he had the flute and used it more like a walking stick like he was in Kung Fu the series and THEN attacks Leo with it? Rampant craziness is never as interesting as restrained controlled craziness. When he’s wild it’s like maybe he just doesn’t have impulse control. When he’s controlled, you know he knows exactly what he’s doing and it implies a plan. And now he’s established as a wacky nut and it took til Tim Hunter kabuki-ed up his face and blacked out his teeth to try to make him genuinely disconcerting. Frustrates me to no end. This guy should have a reputation like the halfway point between BOB and Agent Cooper but instead we get what we got and half the fandom seems to hate the character. (I still like the character a ton even given how it all panned out, just disappointed about the squandered potential)

  2. Un homme solitaire Says:

    Another wonderful podcast folks! Albert & Truman, Norma, Ed & Nadine, Spitting image & Yacht Rock!
    Consider everything not mentioned below to be wholeheartedly agreed with. – Aside from most things involving our long-john clad Puck.

    The six uniforms at the bar were not military, Not with 8-point hats like that and no insignia on their shapeless jackets. Clearly not police in this instance, so possibly bus-drivers? Milk-men? Who knows?

    As a two-wheeled traveller myself, I relate strongly to James’ Wild Ride – my favourite portion of Terrible Twin Peaks. I’ve come across a Vyvelyn or two in my time. It will be missed.

    Take this next bit with a grain of salt, as I’m a Canadian watching the neighbours over the back fence, but in the late 80’s the confederate flag was not nearly as loaded a symbol as is now. This was not terribly long after The General Lee was the name of the flag-painted car in the popular Dukes of Hazzard TV series. “Heritage not hate” was the saying of confederate flag-flyers, uncomfortable histories seemed to be brushed under the carpet for a time. North vs. South in the US could be roughly construed as Democratic vs. Republican.

    I’ll preface Coop’s loss-of-suit and assimilation into the local culture with this:
    Speaking very broadly, the split of population from the Pacific Northwest can be divided into Loggers (never lumberjacks) and Environmentalists. Those who dominate the woods and those who submit to the woods. The symbiosis of these two groups is very real and both groups understand deeply that they need the woods to survive.

    The Environmentalists are represented in Twin Peaks by Harold, the Log Lady, possibly Hawk and certainly ALL of the lodge spirits.

    The Loggers are represented by absolutely everyone else. In a small logging town such as this, all employment spreads from the mill outwards. Without a mill there would have been no diner, school, department store, or gas station. Ben Horne and his tourism based developments run parallel in their dominance of the woods.

    Coop straddles both worlds like a beatific buddhist – Neither Logger nor Environmentalist – seeing the value in all sides. He is a fisherman taking what he needs while being careful not to deplete the stock.

    Don’t loose hope through these episodes! I would love to encourage a reading of Blue Velvet (Young Coop?) to give you all refreshment before the second season picks up again.

  3. Russ Says:

    Hooray for Diane! Your discussion improved the bear-ability of this episode considerably – Thanks as always.

    On an unrelated note, as most of the Diane hosts are Jean Renault fans, I saw a publicity photo of Rick Astley today and I thought he looked like someone… and after a few seconds it hit me… but maybe it’s my own poor eyesight deceiving me:

  4. John Riordan Says:

    I came here to flag the Wizard of Oz reference but I see that John has beaten me to it. But NOW I cannot unsee Rick Astley as Jean Renault. Excellent! Can someone with more time and know-how than me put comp a clip of him singing “Never gonna give you up’ at Coop, please?

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