SILENCE! #115

September 23rd, 2014

 

I’LL GIVE YOU 21… 21… 21…

<ITEM> Lazy Disembodied Narratorbot X-15735 has gone ahols – does anyone pity her? Be careful as it could be lurking in your dirtbox pumping fuzzy with a virulently particular pissing scum. In the screentime, Barry Lactus & The Bobs Must Die bring you the dawning gasm of komiks xrytixm that is…SILENCE! #115

<ITEM> Organ donor-cha-cha-CHA!, there’s Pringles, Profusion of the Twatts, Kick flips, Mirrorball, Poontang Country and a whole sweet fistula more…

<ITEM> When’s this dark in that here valley? Who them? Reviewniversals farewell sensibe hedge funder out of its closing jaw…poor them gave these girls to dark the yam…we were whisperin’ Comics!!!! Daredevil, Future’s End: Batman and Robin, Future’s End, Future’s End, Future’s End, Copra, Multiversity SOS, Translucid, Shutter, Stray Bullets (wow), The Wicked and the Divine, Iron Patriot, Trees, Supreme: Blue Rose, a something Transformers, and a whole catbasket more…

<ITEM>99.9% swears-free! Certified safer for kids than Crossed!

<ITEM> I CAN SEE INSIDE THE INSIDESIDE! There’s just time to talk Batman, Tax, BatTax, Alan Moore’s Jerusalem, comic shops, the limits of the cussword, what we’re having for dinner Silence (Because My Mouth Is Full Of Delicious Food) (cheese on toast as it turned out)and a lot of jizz less.

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17 Responses to “SILENCE! #115”

  1. Cass Says:

    I have a weird relationship with COPRA. I’ve been reading the singles since the beginning, and every issue there’s some stuff that irks me, basically the same stuff that bothers Gary, the odd bit of clunky prose, the occasional unfinished-looking artwork. The fight scenes alone make up for all that, of course, but I dunno. It costs me $8 USD per issue, and because I make what amounts to just over minimum wage, I kind of keep looking for excuses to drop the book. So every month now, since about issue 8, I’ve been like “Okay, next month’s the last.” And every month it wins me over just enough that I say “Okay, no, NEXT month is really the last.”

    And with this Rax/Shade-the-Changing-Man issue, I was convinced before I read the comic that I was finally out. This is because I read the backmatter first, where Fiffe goes on about how the issue is his big tribute to Ditko. Naturally, as a Ditko superfan myself, I started paging through to see if I could spot a reference or get a feel for what eras of Ditko he was riffing on. I was appalled to see that the comic looks nothing like Ditko, not even close. So that was the last straw for me, no more COPRA.

    Then I read the comic. And holy shit, did I stop caring about the Ditko thing. COPRA 17 was exhilarating all the way through. It’s just like what Bobsy says, you can tell Fiffe’s in it now. He has inhabited these characters’ headspaces to such a degree that everything they do and say just seems natural and right. He may not have given the whole Ditko pastiche thing a tremendous amount of thought, but it’s clear from this batch of one-offs that his mind is always on the COPRA cast. It’s like when you think about something you have to do, maybe a speech, for days and days on end, and when it finally comes time to do it, it just flows effortlessly. That’s what it was like reading COPRA 17, hearing a speech that the person rehearsed in his head a thousand times over but is performing for the first time. It’s wonderful.

    So no, not the last straw. The thought of dropping has at last been purged from my brain. I’m on board.

    BRRRRHHHHNN (foghorn sound).

  2. jameswheeler Says:

    I need to cop (hm) to something: I totally did not get that the Wir issue was about Patrick being disturbed to a homicidal degree. I looked at it again back when you first mentioned it, and still didn’t really get that, so I guess I need to reread it. Like, is he delusional about his deadbeat friend, or what?

    Excellent pod as always. I can’t think of Alan Moore without also hearing TBMD’s impression, so I’m happy to add two more to that mix. A choir of Alans.

  3. Arch Stanton Says:

    Another great installment. I wish that there was a Like button so I could signal my appreciation in a passive, perfunctory way rather than bothering to make some sort of comment.

    I read that Michael Fiffe had a number of letter exchanges with Ditko, which, while always courteous, tended to be more than a little odd. There was a bit of an attempted debate over the function and merits of art, and Ditko had this hyperspecific list of objectivist qualities that art had to have before he’d recognize it as such. It was really incredible how thoroughly it has shaped his worldview. I wonder if the Copra prison sequence was born out Fiffe’s experience (and perhaps frustration) from that exchange.

  4. Thrillz Says:

    Another pleasing podcast. Tellingly, it segued (‘seeged’)into a song from the ‘Nekromantik’ soundtrack, and I thought it was one of your Silence! songs.

    I’m not too keen on Alan Moore’s upcoming novel, as I have been grinding my way through Voice of the Fire for over a year now. I’ll read a chapter, put it down, realise I can read things that are actively enjoyable or interesting (or both) instead, then forget to return to it. It’s aw a bit turgid.

    The 1000 page nature of the new one doesn’t bother me that much from a physical perspective, but. I just read a Planetary Omnibus, and Eddie Campbell’s big Alec collection, and so my bones have warped to accomodate Big Books without too much discomfort.

    Nightbeat is a great Transformer, incidentally. He is a noirish gumshoe, but also a rad blue sports car. What a guy!

  5. Cass Says:

    @Thrillz: I did the math and I came up with 3000 standard-novel pages for Alan Moore’s book based on his word-count. I guess they’ll probably use bigger pages, but judging from the link below, you’re gonna be looking at a minimum of 2000.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest_novels

    See, for example, War and Peace, which is HALF the wordcount at 1500 pages. I just don’t understand why – especially in light of Alan Moore’s previous forays into the realm of prose – anyone would want to read Jerusalem, except out of some OCD completist fetish for Moore. Literally, it would take the same amount of time to:

    (a) Reread all of Alan Moore’s comic work.
    (b) Read Jerusalem.

    What do you think you’re going to get more out of?

  6. Thrills Says:

    Cripes, 2000 to 3000? Yes, that is ludicrous. A proper murder weapon with words on.

    I’ll stick with his grotty comix, all the while skipping the bits with songs or rhymes.

    Tellingly, as someone with actual OCD who normally has to finish any book he starts or feel intense anxiety, the fact I’ve yet to finish Voice of the fire doesn’t actually bother me.

  7. bobsy Says:

    James – my impression of Wir is to do with the somewhat extreme nature of his solution to the relatively minor problem posed by his asshole cousin, and the fact that dismembering a corpse you just murdered isn’t really something that can be done without a nasty bit of psychic kickback or good old ‘being a sociopath’. I think the latter, or perhaps PTSD from the effects of his violent lifestyle, is likely given the irresistible ‘battle suit armour as extreme emotional detachment’ metaphor.

    The OCD Alan Moore completist/completest thing is probably me and my so called fucking life.

  8. jameswheeler Says:

    I forgot. He did that.

    Let’s blame it on desensitisation via genre, and my own overuse of a deceased uncle’s punchmech.

  9. jameswheeler Says:

    “Why are Rust and Marty so riled up about this Yellow King chap? He seems alright to me.”

  10. Tam Says:

    The problem with Moore’s ‘Voice of the Fire’ is that the first chapter (which just uses a few hundred words of caveman vocabulary) is a bit of a slog for most people although to be fair I know a few (non comics reading) people who think it’s one of the best things they’ve ever read. (Primo Levi’s brilliant book, the Periodic Table has the same problem by the way) If you just skip over that and start with the second chapter it’s all pretty accessible though.

    Will probably end up reading Jerusalem but Moore’s at his best when he’s writing transcendental pulp fiction and I’m looking far more forward to his take on Crossed

  11. Thrills Says:

    That first chapter of Voice of the Fire has ruined the word ‘glean’ for me forever.

    The rest of it is readable and accessible (so far), I just find it pretty dull. Maybe Northampton’s not the place for me.

    HAUNTED BOOK.

  12. Matthew Craig Says:

    I liked the first chapter of Voyse Of Thu Foyahr! The whole book, actually. All that psychoarchaeology wooOoo. Being haunted by the projected memories of a place woo.

    Fine poddde G-Lac and The Bubs Most Wry (ecch, the word “Wry”). I missed the end, sadly, thanks to a…tumble…dryer. Anyway, if you like Trees, which I haven’t read past #1, but which I expect is better than literally any Warren Ellis Comic (TM) since The Adventures Of Whitesuit And The Woman, you might also like Andrew White’s BLACK PILLARS http://blackpillars1.tumblr.com/

    That last ish of DD was a good opening chapter, although obviously the first thing that sprung to mind during the climactic twist was The Trammy Death Of Alan Bradley, on Coronation Street. I met Barbara Knox once. She insisted I get in the photo with her. If I’d only had five more minutes.

    Alpha Flight had a Purple Girl, as I recall from that horrifying issue with Scramble The Mixed-Up Man (whatta villain!). I wonder if she’ll turn up in this. Purple Pops is probably a bit of a throwback to last decades hellacious trend for characters to use sexual violence, what with his involvement with Jessica…Jones…huh. Daredevil is being filmed for telly right now. Jessica Jones is on the way…synergy?

    Paolo Rivera’s first few issues of DD are up on the ‘Ology in a nice trade with Marcos Martin’s first few for just £2.49.

    Is there another new Robin? How many’s that, now? No such thing as dilution of the brand, anymore.

    The Manchester Metropolitan Multiversity was great. The colouring was a bit odd, mind. Just a little off. The Atom was the best part, though. Wanna read more of him. Much rather read about a working class shortarse superhero like this than some special little prince (thanks, Marc Webb).

    Morrison does a good line in these kind of heroes. Manhattan Guardian, Action Comics. Takes it all back to Kirby, S&S, Eisner, etc..

    WicDiv. WicDiv. VidciW. There’s a lot of talking to the reader. I like best the panels where Laura, Baal etc. are at a quarter-turn. Seems like there’s just a little more personality (?) in them. The action at the end is boss, though.

    I also read that Gwen Spidey comic. It was okay. Nothing new, by definition, but well-executed. Good art, great colours, but some weird choices viz. camera angle. Bias alert, obvs, but there are indie supes out there at things like ThoBubs, etc. that would provide all the calories but with a great new taste. Demand more, y’know?

    I mean, I’ve read four issues of Spider-Verse now, and the bloody thing doesn’t even officially start until November. Acker Bilk or what.

    //\Oo/\\

  13. Tim B. Says:

    I know that Stan Lee will take any credit not tied down but I think it was Will Eisner with his studio that came up with the idea of splitting the parts of creating a comic between different people.

    BTW the trade of 1-6 of Copra is out now at Bergen Street:
    http://bergenstreetcomicspress.bigcartel.com/product/copra-round-one

    price-wise even with UK shipping it works out cheaper than getting the single issues & with the amount of stuff I’ve got to read already I can cope with been about a year behind (And with my memory been what it is I’ll have forgotten any spoilers by the time I get to where the single issues are currently).

  14. Greg Hunter Says:

    Jaime Hernandez is a fair counterpoint to Dave Sim, yeah? In terms of sustained work on the same characters, consistent output, etc? Seems to love fart jokes way out of proportion but also to have kept his sanity.

  15. bobsy Says:

    Strong local support network.

  16. Nate A. Says:

    Eddie Campbell hasn’t been as prolific as Sim, nor the Hernandez bros. But he’s been pretty prolific, and he shares their commitment to exploring his personal concerns through recurring characters. And he strikes me as sane, or at least as sane now as he was when he started. The common denominator seems to be family, which neither Sim, nor Ditko, nor Chester Brown have. Of course, the lack of family might be symptomatic of the looniness (the chicken, the egg). Regardless, any profession that demands a lot of time in one’s own head puts the professional at risk for ailments of the mind. Melville called these ailments the “hypos.”

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