Three days later: Welcome to Diane… #19.

In this episode Rosie, Bob and Mark explore the unfamiliar territory that is the seventeenth chapter of David Lynch and Mark Frost’s Twin Peaks, A Dispute Between Brothers. Beware the ides of Twin Peaks, beware Mordred’s promise, beware the Baba-Yaga’s welcome, and beware all close encounters of the firs kind*.

The great beast has fled – for now – and so we enter the wilderness unafraid. Catherine found her way through the dark night of the woods, Norma’s witch is finally banished, and the Bookhouse Boys crossed into forbidden lands where the cops go clothed in red. Ladies and gentlemen, would you care to join us for an incredibly pleasant evening of night fishing? The choice is yours, but remember, if you want to catch little fish, you can stay in the shallow water. But if you want to catch the big fish, you’ve got to go deeper.


The “alien” is as much a herald from the dark of the universe as it is a signal from the depths of our own minds. 

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Next episode: Meet Nicholas, so named for the patron of thieves.

*Sorry about that last one. Blame Christian, not us…

16 Responses to “Diane… #19: Twin Peaks Episode 17 – Dispute Between Brothers”

  1. John Says:

    Well, welcome to the Reset Button episode, where we clean house, hit the release valve, and immediately introduce the new slate of status quos. I too believe there’s a ton of charm in this episode but there is definitely an immediate removal of gravity, weight, supernatural forces, etc. And a ton of characters begin their second acts here as well (Audrey being okay with/protective of her dad out of nowhere, for an obvious example of about-face).
    Though they do introduce the hooded figure (who I believe was supposed to be the access guide’s mystery play Guardian or at least a dugpa) and usher away Major Briggs mysteriously, so they don’t totally shuffle off the supernatural as much as I feel they do, but it’s a highly redirected concept now and its sense of dread appears scaled down as well (let’s compare the darting hooded woodland guy vs the alpha predator slowly encroaching on the domestic scene and camera to explain my point). Excellent conversation about alien abduction as well. It amazes me how much overlap it has with fairy lore, really how much it has replaced it in modern day.

    I think where this episode fell into the production schedule, I completely believe much of the cast wouldn’t be quite sure why they were supposed to be there, who’s wake they were at, the circumstances therein, etc.

    I love the lean towards the Arthurian you did, as well as the talk that you will have a speculation episode in the future(!!).

    The Diane audio tapes put this out there that Jaques’ Cabin is in Pearl Lakes, and so is the Log Lady’s cabin. Falls right in line with what you say about Pearl Lakes being an equal source of extreme fondness and also dread.
    Nice note that the woods are scared of Catherine thanks to her occupation. Maybe becoming Tojimora really did save her from a proper retribution? Though possibly the poetry could be the woods forgiving her? It’s a nice tangent you drove down for this one.

    I love that your censor bleep is BEAR CLAW. That’s all I have to say about Vivian.

    I feel like Harry has a need in him to be an animal around Josie, but I also partially think she’s trained him to be an animal around her too (Tear it!). Just trying to save Harry some face because otherwise he’s all cool and collected and an all-around good guy.

    Another gem of an episode, Team Diane…this was an episode I was highly interested in hearing your take, and you’ve come through it as smart, positive, and entertaining as ever. Thanks for the work you put into this show (and you too, Soundwave Dave).

  2. Anton B Says:

    Aliens, fairies, ghosts, gods, mystery airships, it’s all dependant on whatever cultural lens you’re viewing them through. Lynch, I feel, understands this implicitly.

    Ooh I can’t wait for the Arthurian lecture! I’m already mapping the Peakies onto the pantheon of Avalon. I’d call Cooper as Launcelot (the perfect outsider) and Annie as Guenevere but that makes Whyndam Earle Arthur! Does that work? Who’s the wounded Fisher King? Phil Gerrard? I dunno, I guess,I’ll wait for you guys to work it all out. And you will!

    Loved your throwaway outing of Jacoby as a Situationist. Of course he is! Definitely of the Ken Kesey Merry Prankster school too. He’s way over the cuckoo’s nest.

    So Katherine ‘became’ Tojimora

  3. Anton B Says:

    (Cont’d) Catherine became Tojimira at Pearl Lakes? I feel the need of a psychogeographic map of TP. Something akin to a London Tube map connecting all the psychic locations like Pearl Lakes, Deer Meadow, Glastonbury Grove, The Canadian Border etc with their respective characters ‘real’ as nd supernatural.

  4. John Says:

    Anton, stepping around finale spoilers, per the Episode 29 Script a woman at the gateway hands a sword to Harry, so he looks to be the Arthur type this time around.

  5. Anton B Says:

    Ah, the True Man. That’d work, with the Bookhouse Boys and their sword/tree emblem as the knights of the round table. My excitement befuddled my memory and I of course meant Caroline Earle, Windom’s wife, not Annie for Guenevere. I’m torn for an analogue for Morgan le fey. I want it to be Julee Cruise because the idea of her being Harry’s secret sister appeals but then I keep thinking about Mrs Tremond and her magical son, who’s an excellent candidate for Mordred. This is too much fun. Any candidates for Merlin? The Log Lady? Major Briggs, Harold?

  6. John Says:

    Hmmm. Jacoby or the Major seem like Merlin types possibly, but trying to second guess the writers I would not be shocked if they wanted the Log Lady to be Merlin here.
    And I also bet Sarah Palmer should be fitting into a role as well.

  7. Adam Says:

    So glad that Lynch dumped swathes of the finale script. It sounds awful.

  8. John Says:

    What’s even more fascinating is the stuff Lynch DIDN’T throw out. Urban legend has it he pitched the whole thing and ad libbed everything, but a lot of it survives in the final product, and there’s some surprising stuff (the Annie/Caroline flip flop for example) that Lynch uses almost verbatim. Hope you’re planning on pawing through that script before you record that episode because it’s interesting enough to warrant it.

  9. Mark Says:

    I bet it is!

  10. James Wheeler Says:

    Is Sarah’s complicity something that comes from later episodes and/or Fire Walk With Me, or has it been established in the series thus far? (Feel like I’ve missed something, if so.)

  11. John Says:

    James, the only bit of complicity I can see in actual evidence is in FWWM when Sarah actively takes milk and sedative from Leland. I think he’s making it a heavier dose than she’s expecting, but she still is actively seeking it out to “calm her nerves”. It’s more of an undercurrent thing, but self-medicating on purpose can be seen as a passive form of complicit behavior to me. I think it’s more complicated than this, but she’s aware of SOMETHING and she’s avoiding it purposefully.

  12. Rosie Says:

    Thanks for the kind words guys and thanks also from Soundwave Dave! I am also excited for more King Arthur times who knows what magical tales Bobsy has up his sleeve?

    James – Sarah’s complicity is something that I’ve not really engaged directly, because I’m not sure if it’s come up directly in the text, as you say (not rewatched FWWM for a good few years now and watching the show week by week as we record). So I don’t think you’ve missed anything explicit James, or if you have I have too!

    I can see the question just kind of asserting itself though, as it often does in real life cases of incest and abuse. Where was the mother? Did she allow this? How could she not know? Aaron asked a really brilliant question here in the comments following our episode 14 reveal, where is Sarah during Maddy’s murder? We see her drag herself along the floor, we see her sea the horse, where does she go? It’s a great way of getting at this problem, and I want to return to it.

  13. James Wheeler Says:

    Thanks Rosie – I have to admit I’m troubled by the question asserting itself per se. It seems (to me) to play into dangerous real-life myths that shift blame from abusers, even moreso than the figure of “Saint Leland” does, which at least has a potential diegetic basis (no matter how unsatisfactory).

  14. James Wheeler Says:

    (Thanks too, John – I skimmed your comment as I will be watching FWWM for the first time soon)

  15. Rosie Says:

    Oh for sure James I framed that poorly but probably rather tellingly. The question often is posed by people who are discussing cases of abuse by fathers, and so it is not difficult for me to imagine the question here.

    Of course, the empirical fact of this common theme in discussions of familial abuse shouldn’t lead us to imagine that the question simply arises in an unmotivated and unbiased form from the void, as I have implied above.

  16. James Wheeler Says:

    Thanks for clarifying! Hope that didn’t come across as finger-pointing or harping.

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