SILENCE! #112

August 26th, 2014

 

TWIST AWAY…NOW TWIST AND SHOUT

<ITEM> Gary Lactus & The Beast Must Die are joined by very special winkiemate BOBSY! for this two-hour plus mega epic.

<ITEM> Gladmin, radmin anything to stop you being sadmin! Disney Marathons, dubbed franco-japanese cartoons, a musical life, Sponsorshunt, and hot sexy all the times more!

<ITEM> The Reviewniverse faces a triple harmonium-breach! Three happy boys taking in this mighty meaty stack: Multiversity, God is Dead, Grant Morrison and Alan Moore sitting in a tree Giant Haystacks Vs Big Daddy, Sandman: Overture, Goodnight Batman Good Night Gaiman, Stray Bullets, Sin City 2, Frank Miller, Big Guy & Rusty The Boy Robot, Geoff Darrow, Robocop Vs Terminator, Batman: The Cult, Give Me Liberty, Ann Raynd, Frank The Tank, Seven Soldiers, Sabretooth Swordsman, Brendan McCarthy, Dream Kings, DHP, Death In Oaxca, Ms Marvel, Haunted Comic, YOU the reader, Wicked & The Divine, White Bearded Babymen, Avengers Analogues, Kieron Gillen, Usagi Yojimbo, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoons and comics, Hip Hop Family Tree, and the Cliff Richard/Hip-Hop Connection,

<ITEM>Gary Races Through The Rest: Daredevil, Mighty Avengers, Borrow or Nah, Secret Avengers, Batman Eternal, Justice Inc, The Saviors, and The Fade Out

<ITEM> Special bo-nutz feature: Bobsy’s Film Corner taking in the ageing flesh-mass that is The Expendables 3!

Three times the danger! Three times the thrills! Three times the smell of raw, rugged testosterone…it can only be SILENCE! 

Can I go now?

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23 Responses to “SILENCE! #112”

  1. Mark the park the big fat lark Says:

    listening to this I wasn’t sure if you guys got that Wundajin’s earth (Earth 7?) is the Ultimates universe. Just thought i should mention it. Easy to check this stuff, just go to the DC interactive Multiversity page/DST annos. Thing about the FF was interesting.

  2. Thrills Says:

    I really enjoyed Multiversity, though I was initially cynical about Morrisonian diminishing returns, and sceptical about the art.

    Luckily, it was a continuation of Final Crisis, and had an excellent disregard for any non-Granto DC stuff. I could do without the “I am a fanboy on the internet” stuff, as it perhaps edges too close to Geoff Johnns and his fucking awul Superboy Prime, but I suppose anything that insults comics fans (and by extension, me) should perhaps be welcomed.

    POWER-WANK: is ‘Nix Uotan’ some sort of reference to how new comics wednesday is a terrible time? Nix Wotan and all that.

    That’s as in-depth as my analysis gets, I think. I’m just well into a sentient rickety Stephen King Maine house filled with screaming humans, and I hanker after Doug Mankhe’s art to come and fully realise it.

    I’m not enjoying Captain Carrot, though. It’s amusing that he has a ‘realistic’ post-Ultimates outfits, but.

    I don’t like sassy anthropomorphised animals in superhero comics, unless it’s Gerber, which ties in with my hatred of sassy super-insightful kids like Peter David and Neil Gaiman and Johnathan Hickman and 90s Vertigo write. Fuck off, ‘Little Wing’.

    “Thinks he’s like Burroughs, but he’s like Red Dwarf” is a great description of nearly all ‘funny and cynical’ comics as well as many black-clad ‘nerds’ I know. I don’t understand why people that aren’t children enjoy Red Dwarf, I don’t understand why people that aren’t children enjoy DR and Quinch (though Alan Davis is good, eh).

    Jimmy Palmiotti is on the Rucka axis. People really seem to like his work, but it is barely there as a thing you’d actually read.

    I had this angry hunk of a Usagi Yojimbo action figure, from the Turtles toy line, years ago.

    http://whatchareading.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/tmnt-usagi-011.jpg

    Thanks for your time,

    Angry Cynical Thrills Who Can’t Find a New Flat

  3. bobsy Says:

    It’s probably just your lack of faith that means you can’t find a flat though isn’t it? If you only believed more you’d get one toot sweet. It’s not the housing market’s fault, OK?

  4. Zig Zag Zig Says:

    This question is really based on one of Gourmetlactus’ off-hand comments, but I was wondering how you guys feel/think about the various attempts to rehabilitate the 90s art of Rob Liefeld. It’s been on my mind recently on account of the recent InkStuds interview. Inspired me to go back re-read Sarah Horrock’s three arguments in favour of a historical revision (the first one is misdirected, but the other two seem to make a good point). Matt Seneca also had a blog post about it, but it seems to have disappeared. Maybe.

    Anyway. Just curious.

    I also had that Usagi toy. Loved it.

  5. Anonymous Says:

    I have listened to Rob Liefeld in interviews and found him charmingly enthusiastic and unjaded about comics. The freedom he gives others who are playing with his properties (Prophet, Glory, Supreme Blue Rose) betrays and open mind and wide field of interest within the medium. All this has given me an enormous amount of good will towards the chap. Doesn’t he even have a cool rags to riches origin story? Still don’t like his art. Apart from the obvious inappropriate teeth gnashing anatomy his shortcuts are too glaring and he can’t tell a story. Any joy I get from his stuff is unintentional on his part. His work almost goes right round the wheel to brilliant but not quite; it just gets stuck at hilariously bad. Love the guy but can’t read his stuff.

  6. Gary Lactus Says:

    That was me, Gary Lactus.

  7. Zig Zag Zig Says:

    I don’t believe you.

  8. Tom Healey Says:

    I could listen to you lot take the piss out of the dream weaver all day.

  9. Gary Lactus Says:

    It was. I was me, Gary Lactus.

  10. The Beast Must Die Says:

    Happy to oblige Tom. The Dream Liege is a bountiful, generous target

  11. bobsy Says:

    Neil has actually been promoted to Obergruppenfuhrer auf den Traume Gestapo.

  12. bobsy Says:

    (the jackets, yeah?)

  13. Justin Victor Says:

    You guys make a lot of great points about Multiversity, especially the Fantastic Four stuff. I loved the book too. Dense, exciting, and seems somehow very much of it’s time yet a few steps ahead of every one else. Morrison just has a knack for capturing the grandeur and joyful absurdity of the genre in a way that no one seems able to match.

    As a fellow fan of trashy action movies, I’m curious as to why Bobsy hates Expendables 2. To me, it’s a leaner, meaner improvement on the first, with a humdinger of an opening sequence and some solid fights in the final act. Adkins and JCVD deserved more time, but it’s good dumb fun on the whole.

    Speaking of Van Damme and Lundgren, I’d recommend Universal Soldier: Day of Reckoning if you haven’t seen it yet. It’s a rather insane mix of standard B-grade men’s action with horror and noir tropes and a generous helping of Apocalypse Now. Excellent, harrowing action scenes as well.

  14. The Beast Must Die Says:

    I believe master Bob-z is well acquainted with that ‘un. I’ve yet to see it though. Sounds right up my alley.

  15. bobsy Says:

    Indeed, prob my favourite film of the century.

    I just think Expendables 2 is total shithouse. The CG explosions would have been cheap a decade ago, Norris, Schwarz and Willis are not the best at what they do and what they do isn’t very good, and it’s an explicit attack on the new generation of action movie making: Adkins is totally not in it, as you say, and JCVD and Lundgren – the legit bridges between the old form and the new – are deliberately mocked by the script. It’s a hateful piece of shithouse.

  16. Justin Victor Says:

    Fair points. I’d be very interested in seeing what John Hyams could do with Expendables money, but it looks like he’s stuck doing Syfy stuff now.

  17. Matthew Craig Says:

    Ed Piskor is the for real deal, both as a creator and as a guy who does the other not-drawing-bit really well. His Soundwave/Blaster cover for Transies v TGIJoeMomma was the bomb-diggity aussi.

    The first Expbellendables movie was shat enough for me. Christ. Every inch of it rank with Sanatogen and ball-sweat. Lundgren was great, though. The superhero version of this in ten years time, with Tobey Maguire, the Galaga guy, Stan Lee and the only guy out of Kick-Ass who ISN’T playing Quicksilver right now, is going to be great. I mean, is going to grate.

    AND I READ A COMICS TOO. The Beano. By Crom, they’re laying on the Americanisms a bit thick – or should that be thuick? “Butt” instead of “Bum,” “Boogers” instead of “Bogies.” “Amazeballs.” Fyciing “CHORES” instead of “HOUSEWORK.”

    “CHORES.” /boke

    Minnie The Minx was good, though. Tricky Dicky, too.

    //\OO/\\

  18. The Beast Must Die Says:

    Thank you btw Mr. Craig for your lovely ongoing Beano & Viz reviews in the comments section. Always most welcome.

  19. Thrulls Says:

    Aye, Expendebaws (PS ‘exbellendables’ is the best, Matthew Craig) was pretty shitty. Sure, it perfectly recaptured the feeling of a late 80s dadcore channel 5 11pm film, but what that sort of film that actually is is forgetable, boring, objectionable dogshit. If it was like Predator or First Blood, that’d be one thing. But it’s not. It’s like, I dunno, some £2.99 film from RS McColl starring Don the Dragon Wilson, but without whatever spurious ‘kitch’ appeal that might have.

    See also: Rambo, co-starring Matthew fucking Marsden.

    Beano is saying ‘chores’ and ‘boogers’? Argh!

  20. Matthew Craig Says:

    I forgot “pooping” instead of “pooing.”

    Y’know, I rememeber way back when Yo! Gabba Gabba was brought over here and they dubbed all the Yanqui voices with, presumably, Jean Alexander, Whispering Bob Harris and Matthew Parris, and how bullshit that was. Not that I was watching the programme – I’d moved out of that whole “draw through the night, go to bed after The Hoobs” thing – but the thought that those artists would have their work vandalised in such a gross way made me sick, and also very glad that nobody thought to give Sesame Street the same treatment. Elmo gone full-Pasquale.

    (Of course, I now wonder if I should feel a bit guilty about how easily the distant cool of those sidewalks, accents and weird foods (“Coolade?!”) seduced me. Maybe that was the point.)

    I probably ought to have said why Minnie The Minx is so ace. It’s pretty basic: every other female in the story – she has no peers, no female friends, no enemies her own age/sex (not even Angel Face de Testa) – is a traditionally attractive, apparently conventional “lady.” Oh, apart from her Nan, maybe. But that might be because she’s the Silver Age Minnie The Minx (the Minx Gene being recessive and on the X, skipping a generation through her father, expressing in Minerva II, unless it’s the hat).

    Anyway, Minnie is completely unfettered, in a way that surpasses all other features in the Beano. Dennis’ parents have more control and exact more punishment, Roger’s antics are more focussed but ultimately self-defeating, Tricky Dicky is more reactive, and Paul is a Potato. But Minnie is a force of nature, surfing on a wave of insouciant glee down the boulevard of One Foot Turned In, razzing every so-called “kick-ass heroine” turned non-threatening adorkable ditz along the way.

    :( http://www.beano.com/characters/minnie-the-minx/downloads/jim-petrie-1932-2014

    I also enjoy Alan Ryan’s Smudge. For someone alternately crippled by germophobia and sleeping in his own filth, it’s true escapism.

    //\Oo/\\

  21. Tim B. Says:

    Re Sean Phillips work without Brubaker, there’s Void with Herik Hanna, coming out soon looks to be european sci-fi album type thing (48 page hardcover from Titan) so may pick it up. Also 7 Pshycopaths from Boom.

    After reading the first issue of The Fade-Out it’s interesting but I’m going to trade wait it – I’ll sacrifice the 2-3 pages of o.k. text per issue for re-readabilty & easy access of a trade paperback.

  22. tam Says:

    Give me Liberty’s not a very good comic but it’s a fascinating cultural artefact. Ayn Rand’s influence on US politics, (and, arguably, indirectly UK politics) has been gradually and inexorably been growing over the years to a point where libertarianism is now maybe even THE prevailing ideology in US politics as well as being a huge influence on things like Edward Snowden’s world changing behaviour.

    So what makes Give Me Liberty interesting, (aside from Dave Gibbons’ excellent art) is that it’s one of the earlier signs that Rand’s ideas were starting to percolate into the cultural mainstream and appeal to people who couldn’t be bothered to read her long, tedious ‘novels’. Depressingly it makes you realise that Frank Miller’s been a bit of a visionary…

  23. jameswheeler Says:

    “The Mike Costa one is horrible, one of the most misogynistic pieces of shit I’ve ever read” for personal and petty reasons it was all I could do to not stand and roar in triumph at this.

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