SILENCE!#78
October 1st, 2013
CHARLIE, DON’T WANT ANOTHER BEER, TONIGHT I’M GONNA DRINK MY TEARS
<ITEM> What is this disgusting Graphic Novel craze that is haunting the nation’s children?
<ITEM> Banish your shameful floppy addiction and get into the hardback stuff with this week’s rollicking and rambling edition of SILENCE!
<ITEM> This week sponsored a lot by Library – the greatest bookshop there has been or could ever be…
<ITEM> The lovable but sadly now fully attached (sorry gels) The Beast Must Die is flipping still on his holy honeymoon, meaning Gary is forced to recruit bobsy for more of his baneful civilising influence!
<ITEM> There are some riveting personal questions to be had and then!
<ITEM> Gasp as The Tall and his thrall batter their way into the reviewniverse, there to discuss the unique and neglected phenomenonenom of the Graphic Novel – a new type of comic that isn’t for kids! We cover such good’uns as Adamtine by local produce Hannah Berry, Cave In and Daybreak by the thundering Brian Ralph, Judge Dredd in Satan’s Island by Wagner & co, before swimming over to Fishtown by Kevin Colden.
<AND> the mysteriously entwined nautical pair of Set to Sea by Drew Weing and Black Lung by Chris Wright.
<AND> then into a brief and tenuous discussion of Nobrow #7 and the same publisher’s marvelous Jean Baptiste Baigorri 1: Cramond Island by Irkus M. Zeberio.
<ITEM> Normal service exists in the form of hasty reviews of monthly floppybooks Mysterious Strangers #4, Fairlaine the Goblin #1, Gambit #17, Sex Criminals #1, Sex #whevs, Wolverine and the X-Men and Jupiter’s Cheggersy before we suddenly realise we’d rather get on with our normal lives, for a bit, at least.
<ITEM> Oh, and at the start we talk about Saga #14 too. SPOILERS: only liars and the brain-damaged like Saga, but if comics needs another TV show – and soon – in order to keep the concept farm open for another year then yes, by all means give it another award.
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Oh, and GOSH!
October 2nd, 2013 at 10:41 am
Apologies for the unwanted interruptions from a previous episode edit. I will sort these out in a couple of days when I get the chance. Bad Gary. Bary.
October 2nd, 2013 at 12:07 pm
I think Irkus M. Zeberio might be a ‘she’ and not a ‘he’. IF that’s so and IF it matters or IF any one cares: apologies
October 2nd, 2013 at 3:59 pm
Podcast is now fixed. Apologies for any inconvenience.
October 2nd, 2013 at 4:46 pm
I apologise too. Again. Any more?
October 2nd, 2013 at 4:46 pm
Sorry.
October 2nd, 2013 at 5:03 pm
The scream caught me as I was nodding off to sleep last night. I thought something might have escaped The Beast’s haunted castle when he went en voyage de noces.
I might recommend bounty-hunt-’em-up Codeflesh by Casey and Charlie Adlard, especially for the last chapter, which is as formally tricky as a Bristolian rapper in M&S dapper.
I also enjoyed Officer Downe, the sleazy Judge Robocop parody drawn by Chris Burnham. The art was gert lush and the story daft. Maybe also try the quasi-between-the-two Nixon’s Pals.
I like Joe Casey because he seems to be able to put out standalone superhero graphic novels whenever he wants to, apparently. I can’t, but I would like to.
I can, however, draw with my foot.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 5:22 pm
The accidental gender-identification fuckup issue of Silence! Perhaps instead of avoiding swearing in future, you could avoid referring to Chelsea Manning as a ‘lady-man’?
I’m PC, like a police constable, me. Grumpy pumpy.
I enjoyed the first two issues of Joe Casey’s ‘The Intimates’, mainly for the Camuncoli art and the pop! colours. The denseness of the thing (MTV-style info-captions, one-panel flashbacks etc) was great in theory, but in practice mainly just served to distract from the terrible dialogue and awful characters long enough for me to decide never to buy it again.
I liked the idea of his X-Men comic, where Chamber got together with a pop star and thus ensued some tabloid hijinks, but, well, it was pretty terrible. I just fancy Chamber, is all, and like when he gets included.
I’m with Bobsy regarding ‘Saga’, incidentally. I just don’t like it. I think it’s because, yes, I am not a youngster, and also because indie cuteness with ram’s horns does not appeal.
Brian K. Vaughan wrote a decent Chamber miniseries, though.
I disgust myself.
October 2nd, 2013 at 7:38 pm
Listen to my new podcast “The Brain Tumors”, it’s all Saga all the time!
October 2nd, 2013 at 7:46 pm
‘Not any more… lady now’ (about 7:28 in)
not ‘Not any more… lady-man’. Definitely not.
It does sound a bit like that, but I beseech a careful listen.
October 2nd, 2013 at 8:28 pm
Ah, right! Sorry about that! That’s what I get for listening to the hott podd as I walk about outside.
October 2nd, 2013 at 8:37 pm
Nae probs big man
October 2nd, 2013 at 9:00 pm
It was all MY ignorance. It’s a new feature on SILENCE! Last week’s Red Hood gaff was just a warm up!
October 3rd, 2013 at 12:41 am
I am really quite enjoying Saga.
October 3rd, 2013 at 2:34 am
As someone who has bought and will continue to buy SAGA on a monthly basis, I have to agree partly with Bobsy’s criticism. I think people love SAGA so much because it successfully carries over the attitude, quirky dialogue, imagery, and stock characters of a pop sci-fi television program to the comics page. Furthermore, it shows a basic level of storytelling competence, matched with equally competent pop sci-fi art. These things are so sorely lacking from most comics that the both fans and professionals alike are beside themselves. I know that I am. A comic that’s fun AND competent on all basic levels?! AND reflects contemporary tastes?! ZOMG.
October 3rd, 2013 at 9:03 am
Your ‘red hood’ gaffe (and, worse, misspelling of ‘gaffe’ gaffe) was eclipsed by Bobsy mentioning Orlok caused the Chaos Bug when he was actually responsible for Bock Mania. Shocking. Call yourselves nerds?
Have to admit, I’m quite enjoying Jupiter’s Children. I read the first three issues in one go the other day, it’s got a exhilarating ‘anything can happen’ epic tone and thought it was pretty good in a very undemanding kind of way. Peter Doherty’s colouring is fascinating too, it makes the comic look a nice cross between Quitely and Doherty’s own stuff.
I’ve been reading some of these graphic novel things too lately. One of my favourite things about them is that because they’re fairly quick to read, it’s a good way to check out the sort of genres I wouldn’t want to commit to reading a whole book about.
I read ‘Please God, Find me a husband’ by Simone Lia the other day and thought it was great, despite having arguably the worst ever title for any book ever. A funny, touching look at faith with some nice cartooning. Even a godless heathen like me was able to appreciate it! Really good stuff!
(It’s a real shame about the unappealing title which would put loads of people off. Whoever works in marketing for Jonathan Cape should be fired!)
October 3rd, 2013 at 9:37 am
Orlok & co were n no small way involved with the Chaos Buig. I’m gonna stand by that…
October 3rd, 2013 at 10:11 am
Incidentally, I totally thought the audio intrusions from a previous episode’s edit were just bizarre attempts to undemrine Bobsy’s opinions. It made me laugh, though I was rather confused. I am often confused, it seems.
October 3rd, 2013 at 11:34 am
I thought that too. It’s the kind of thing he’d do.
October 3rd, 2013 at 2:45 pm
No it wasn’t and no it isn’t!
October 3rd, 2013 at 2:46 pm
“Bock Mania.”
Mean Angel, shurely?
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October 4th, 2013 at 11:08 pm
ooh, nice work, Matthew Craig, good effort – but actually, actually; actually — actually, actually… actually; actually ~ actually actually actualactually actuallyactuallyactually actually in actual fact actually, it’s spelled “bok” dontchaknow.
nnnf
October 6th, 2013 at 11:09 pm
I’m with Bobsy 100% on Saga. I like Fiona Staples’ art just fine, but it strikes me as something that’s only special in comparison with other superhero comics. What really bugs me is Brian K. Vaughan’s scripting. It’s just such a by-the-numbers Joss Whedon clone, and like Bobsy says, it’s very much like Vaughan is using archetypes straight out of Buffy, which doesn’t interest me. I’m not entirely sure I understand the hype around Saga, but it interests me how quickly the comics internet embraced it.
Aaand that was my literally first comment after following this show for 20 episodes. On a more positive note, thanks for the heads up on Adamtine!
October 7th, 2013 at 9:51 am
Well I enjoyed the podcast, even if I did only listen to it in chunks over the last week. I read the first issue of Saga, and the artwork was delightful, but I didn’t feel compelled to read any further. Might check out the trade.
‘Please God, Find me a husband’ is the sort of thing I’d get spotted reading on the tube.
“No, I actually like Watchmen and edgy comics. Honest!”
October 7th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
@eyemelt
I know what you mean. It’s a bit of an embarrassment. I hide this sort of stuff underneath the bottom of my porn collection
October 7th, 2013 at 8:54 pm
You said ‘bottom’! Snort!