SILENCE! #30

September 10th, 2012

“TELL THEM ABOUT THE TWINKIE…”

“WHAT ABOUT THE TWINKIE?”

YO HO HO and a bottle of meths – it’s time for SILENCE!, the rough podcast, its hour come round at last, that slouches towards Bethlehem! Yaaay! I knew that English Degree would come in useful…

The Beast and Gary Lactus bring you all the usual half-baked treats straight from the dutch oven…treats such as: The SILENCE! News (featuring insight!), and Lactus pathetically pleads with Dear Listener to look at his stupid film. Then there’s full and hearty discussions of such 4-colour wonders like Fraction and A-Ha’s Hawkeye no.2, Action no.0, Dial H no.0, Animal Man no.0, Dan the Unharmable, Fashion Beast (with a brief detour into McLaren’s Ghosts of Oxford Street and Grant Morrison’s Sick Buildings), Sweet Tooth, and Amazing Spiderman. Grand!

The SILENT Question comes from robotic miseryguts The Vision, and the answer involves Lockjaw, Aquaman and tangentially the absolutely wonderful Batman: Brave & The Bold cartoon.

Then Lactus takes us to the movies (and tries to fondle us in the back seat) and reviews DREDD! 3D!

Finally The Beast directs us to the great blog Suggested For Mature Readers, and recalls Miracleman: The Golden Age, Gaiman’s finest hour. Oh and tells you to pick up the Prophet and Glory trades, quick smart!

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21 Responses to “SILENCE! #30”

  1. bobsy Says:

    Cry Wolf? The Living Daylights? Come on!

  2. The Beast Must Die Says:

    Ah of course. Or rather A-Ha!

    Ha A-Ha!

  3. Adam Says:

    Dudes. What Alex Garland would like to do with Dredd 2 and 3 (from some place on the Internet):

    “Amongst the chatter, he’s addressed the plan for a sequel, were he to get the opportunity to make Dredd 2. “It would be about origins and subversion”, he revealed, “and Chopper would feature. In fact, I think Chopper would start and end the story. Apart from him, my rough plan involves Fargo, Giant, Angel Gang, and a version of Satanus. For a trilogy, add Cal and the Dark Judges. And Anderson would be in all three. But… just to be clear, this is hugely speculative and also unlikely, for any number of reasons”.

    Furthermore, Garland would like to use the Dark Judges properly, too: “not play them for laughs… just make them totally malevolent and lethal… use practical effects where possible”.

    Finally, Garland was asked if he’d definitely be doing a sequel if Dredd 2 got a green light. The news might not be so good there, though, as he said “There are some variables which would rule me out immediately”. Presumably, he has another project or two close to fruition.

    The full webchat can be found here, and thanks to Bleeding Cool for pointing us in the direction of it.”

  4. Gary Lactus Says:

    Cheers for that. I loiterally have no idea where what I was talking about came from. I am clearly not a journalist.

  5. Cineworld Brighton Says:

    Thanks for the shout out, played it to management and got some serious brownie points for that one.

    And sorry for the bad Dredd info. That’s the last time I listen to rumours from our customers. This probably means Vigo Mortensen isn’t playing Doctor Strange either.

  6. Tim B. Says:

    thanks for the episode, the question for me about Dredd 3D is looking at the trailer, how similar is it to Raid Redemption?

    Can’t recommend the Prophet trade highly enough, I have no experience of the original Liefeld work but loved this. Hats off to Image, Was humming & hawing about picking up the Glory trade, but if the attitude of Prophet is anything to go by it’s certainly worth £7.50 of my money.

  7. The Beast Must Die Says:

    Trust me it’s worth it for the art alone. Ross Campbell’s character designs are phenomenal.

  8. J_Smitty_ Says:

    I think Hawkeye’s digs would be a lot more believable if we edited out the last 15-20 homogenizing years of Marvel Superheroes being the 1% of the 1%

    “Blow up my skyscraper, will you? I’ll just build another.”

    Prophet’s floppy #’s are getting alarming. Under 6,000 for August. Hopefully the trade provides a much needed boost to the monthly readership. Hibbs commented a while back that he was alarmed Comix Experience was accounting for 1% of total Prophet sales.

  9. igmus Says:

    Just got back from my two-week tour of the UK and now I have a lot of Silence! to catch up on. I enjoyed seeing your island again, though parts of your wry culture still baffle me a bit. Correct me if I’m wrong but most of your Paralympics coverage was some kind of a winking put-on, or Andy Kaufman-style gag, to see how much of a media presence they could give it before some brave fool finally stands up and tries to say something like “I’ve nothing against handicapped people, but all this coverage seems kind of…excessive. And the proclamations that this will ‘inspire a generation’ seem…overblown. BUTSORRYIFTHATSOUNDSMEAN! PLEASEDONTBRANDMEHEARTLESSANDHORRIBLE!”?

    However, I guess athletes are inspiring on some level. And if this is the case, then handicapped athletes have to be more inspiring still. I’m still more inspired by certain people I’ve met in life, who have taught me real things that are useful or wise. But I would have to rank Paralympians in general almost infinitely more inspiring, on a pragmatic level, than Superman the fictional character. Sorry, Grant.

    I also think the Miracleman stuff was Gaiman’s finest hour. Though I’d rank Sandman above it, there is surely no single Sandman collection that can rank with MM: The Golden Age. The Warhol issue is possibly my favorite issue of anything ever. All of Gaiman’s stuff since about 1997 seems weak and unintentionally self-parodic to me. Like he slowly became the fey caricature of pomposity and forced pathos that some people in the early ’90s (including fans of his) sometimes said he was. Sadly, Gaiman only became more famous as he walked down this road.

    I’ve never read any of the Avatar adaptations of Moore’s work aside from “Light of Thy Countenance”, which is more an illustrated prose story than a comic. I thought it was really, really excellent. Then again, that one was just intended as a prose story in the first place, so perhaps the conversion was easier. I can see where other adaptions of his stuff might not be good at all.

  10. The Beast Must Die Says:

    Yes, the Warhol MM issue is tremendous. Having read the Victor Bockris biography of him, Gaiman nails him very well (or at least the public persona). Such an original vision of ‘hell’. It’s also just one of the most audacious superhero comics I’ve ever read, and Buckingham deserves recognition for that as well – the incorporation and repetition of panels from previous issues, with the pitch-perfect Warhol pastiches, and the general method of using Warhol’s style as an actual sequential narrative technique. So, so good.

    I think The Golden Age suggests a genuinely sophisticated and, yes, adult place for superheroes to go. It doesn’t suggest adult = grit and grime, it just finds a new place of wonder to operate from.

    I don’t think Gaiman’s done anything as brilliant as that run before or since – Mr Punch is good, and I have a soft spot for Black Orchid’s lush charms, but his MM stuff is the real proof to me that he was worthy of some of the accolades the fantasy luminaries used to sling his way.

  11. Thrills Says:

    Was incredibly chuffed to find Miracleman: Golden Years for £2 in a charity shop a few years ago. I’d agree it’s definitely up there with Gaiman’s best stuff, though I can’t stand the children’s story section. It’s just so…Gaimany.

    The Warhol story is ace, but my favourite might be the one where they’re climbing through Miracleman’s palace (or whatever) on a pilgrimage to meet him and ask him a question. Career-best from Buckingham, as well, who has often just struck me as a guy who is a good imitator but doesn’t really have a powerful, distinct style of his own? Not really aware what he’s doing now, though, as my last exposure to him was maybe issue 1 of fucking Fables. For all I know he’s totally come into his own, now, and been given a chance to shine.

    Also, I do feel the Paralympics coverage has often been somewhat patronising with all the ‘superhuman’ bullshit and whatnot, but I’m just glad it got a lot of coverage. I was scared it’d get swept under the rug and forgotten about once the ‘proper’ (urgh) Olympics were over. Though the cynical, lizard-hating part of me says that they just got lots of coverage to continue the current trend of just reporting on sports and thus burying the ReAl NeWz.

  12. janeanpatience Says:

    New job being followed by illness and all I hadn’t checked, let along updated, the blog for a couple of days. So I was extremely surprised to see that feckless inactivity had brought the huge rewards of hundreds of visitors, three times as many in a single day as I’d ever had before. Thought it might be because of the guest post on Tearoom of Despair, but I’ve traced it back to the fine words said about my work on your podcast. Wow and thanks. Glad you liked it, and your impressions of my character are pretty much correct; I’ve dropped out of the monthly comics scene though am still as hopelessly committed to the medium as ever.

    I’d better go and finish that Zenith Phase IV post, huh? Thanks again.

  13. tam Says:

    Just got back from watching Dredd. Absolutely adored it and like Gary says, it’s probably the most exhilarating action film I’ve seen since The Matrix, and my mate who’s never read the comics liked it just as much. Very smart use of the limited budget, so it never felt like a cheap film either. The ONLY criticism the quality of the bad language, too many ‘fucks’ but not a single ‘Drokk’!

    Gaiman’s Miracleman is great, but my favourite thing he ever did is that Hellblazer story, ‘Hold Me’ he did with Dave McKean, which is one of the most moving stories I’ve ever read.

  14. The Beast Must Die Says:

    Hi Janeanpatience – no worries. Like I say, your blog hits the sweet spot of my comics-reading history. Glad that it brought some duly deserved attention your way.

    Yes please with the Phase IV…

  15. tam Says:

    Oh yeah, always had a soft spot for the (old school) Green Arrow’s excellent beard. I liked the way Mike Grell accepted that it was too conspicuous for a secret identity to really work, even in a world where Lois Lane couldn’t recognise Superman and Clark Kent were the same guy.

    Interestingly though, (digression alert!) I recently discovered this sort of naive attitude about people not being recognised in their secret identities didn’t originate in comics. I read some Bulldog Drummond, (after discovering him in The Black Dossier) from the 20s and the villain was an equally implausible, (by today’s standards) master of disguise. I suspect this stuff seemed a bit more plausible in the days before the cinema was so mainstream and readers didn’t realise, (for example) that Anne Hathaway looks pretty much the same as Selina Kyle and Catwoman…

  16. The Beast Must Die Says:

    My favourite non-disguise is still Denny Colt/The Spirit. That tiny domino mask is ace.

    Been hankering to read some of Grell’s Green Arrow run. I used to love O’Neill and Cowan’s Question series and GA always seemed like something of a companion title. Any good?

  17. Gary Lactus Says:

    *Ahem* Tam, I think you’ll find that the word “drokk” actually appeared on an extra’s jacket, so your statement, “not a single ‘Drokk’!” is factually inaccurate. Any idiot with with half a brain could have seen that! Bet you feel pretty stupid now! HA! Pay attention next time you’re watching a film, yeah?

    Actually my friend Bob pointed it out to me afterwards. Good point re language although I didn’t actually notice it. I guess fucks just wash over me these days.

  18. The Beast Must Die Says:

    Quaequam Blag!!

    Seeing Dredd tomorrow. Am stoked. I expect to start Judging people shortly afterwards.

  19. tam Says:

    @Gary Lactus

    I’m duly chastened!

    To be fair though, I could see why they’d done it. The decision to make MC1 like a futuristic version of a current urban metropolis instead of a completely new city meant that it made more sense they’d be using language similar to ours. And of course the reason the comic used made up swear words is because 2000 AD was aimed at kids, whereas these days all Dredd’s fans are likely to be over 18 and thus capable of hearing bad language without it corrupting us too much.

    Also, I’ve been doing some research on this slo-mo drug. Did you know it works by stimulating a part of the brain known as Shatner’s Basson?

  20. Gary Lactus Says:

    Ha! Hadn’t made that connection!¬ Slo mo is actually Cake!

  21. mattmwise Says:

    Incredibly late to the party, but I did want to point out that no lesser authority than Frankenstein Agent of S.H.A.D.E asserts that Melmoth’s beard is “Great” – just like your podcast. Still not sure which one he means though. Thanks for giving me a way to consume comics with my ears – it makes my drive to work so much safer!

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